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Monthly Nano News: December 2019 + Year Recap Special

This is what NANO has been up to lately. I don't think I lie if I say it has been quite an amazing year!
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Questions and answers from our latest #AskWTC AMA

Q1.

Slack name: bamber
Q1.1: In a retail clothing shop customers often pick up items and return them to the wrong rails. When a member of staff then resets these items the system would log them, skewing the grab rate data. What have WaltonChain done to solve this issue?
Answer: Waltonchain’s solution with its unique RFID-based hardware tracks not only clothes but customer picks. Data from different readers (shelves, fitting rooms, price scanners, checkout counters, etc) is aligned and verifies each other. The sequence of RFID reads are time-aligned for interpretation of user behaviors and interests.
 
Q1.2: Do the RFID clothes rail scanners work on circular rails which are popular in clothing shops?
Answer: Technically, yes. Practically, we are further testing and improving performance for the most popular environments and scenarios in the clothing industry.
 
Q1.3: Items of clothing which are neatly folded and displayed in piles (e.g. jeans) present challenges in terms of placement of RFID scanners. How does the Waltonchain system overcome this?
Answer: Okay, we see where this question is coming from: You are asking this because you have not realized the fundamental difference of the RFID tags we use vs. some of the NFC tags you’ve seen out there. This is a good question. Let me elaborate a little, and take this opportunity to give a basic RFID 101.
For basics, you should just remember that RFID is the process by which items are uniquely identified using radio waves. RFID tags/chips are the hardware chips that in everyday use people usually refer to as “RFID.” This is fine in daily speech.
On a very high level, to make it simple, there are two types of RFID chips we see in the Blockchain world:
  1. Ultra High Frequency (UHF) RFID tags, which operate in 856 MHz to 960 MHz frequency ranges; and
  2. High Frequency (HF) Near-Field Communication or NFC tags, which operate in 13.56 MHz frequency ranges (these tags can be read by your phone. Recently iPhones have implemented this capability.)
Both of these chips are categorized as RFID tags, under the RFID family. The difference in these tags are tldr, but the takeaway for our case is this:
Our Waltonchain-compatible UHF RFID chips are readable 9 feet away, in a batch, all at once. NFC chips are usually used in peer-to-peer, i.e., using your phone to scan an NFC chip in very close proximity (a couple of inches or closer).
If you watched our demo video made by Boxmining on Youtube, you will notice that we use UHF RFID (Ultra High Frequency) technology.
Finally, to answer your question, with UHF RFID system and the Walton RFID reader, we will be able to read with 100% accuracy the tags within a pile of clothes, neatly folded or not.
 
Q1.4: In a clothing shop can staff manually amend the blockchain data? (if activities in the store results in skewed data - e.g., a large number of items being mistakenly moved resulting in artificial grab rate data etc. can anything be done by the staff to correct this?
Answer: Nobody can tamper with data on blockchain. Our specially designed RFID end devices collect data and record on the chain automatically and reliably. At the same time, data analytics can be used to interpret employee behavior as well.

Q2.

Dominique‏ @DomFromParis Nov 18
Q2: Can you confirm it will be 5000 Walton for a masternode and what % will be paid to the holders?
Answer: Yes, holding 5000 WTC qualifies a node to be a Masternode, which will earn extra rewards for every mined block. The percentage and/or reward system will be announced with other details. Please follow our official announcements.
 

Q3.

Sam Lyons‏ @SamTaweets Nov 18
Q3: AskWTC If possible can you please tell us if you have any partners already secured for the RFID when you go live on-chain?
Answer: As you will have seen from our blog posts and various news articles we have several close partners and have signed strategic cooperation agreements with a number of organisations. We released news of one just last week. Many of these companies have already been using our RFID technology and all have projects planned for RFID + Waltonchain integration. In terms of ongoing discussions, we will not release specific information about them until they are 100% confirmed.
 

Q4.

Dominique‏ @DomFromParis Nov 18
Q4: Why Walton does not have a GitHub?
Answer: We will have a GitHub. We will provide the GitHub for our full node, light node, wallet, etc. We want everything to be thoroughly tested before public access. Also, our software rollout has to be aligned with hardware R&D.
 

Q5.

Peter Peterson‏ @Hamster10Peter Nov 18
Q5: Binance is a good exchange but is it manipulated by trading bots to keep the price unnaturally low. When will WTC be listed on Bittrex or Bithumb? We really need one of the biggest exchanges so our beloved coin can grow naturally.
Answer: We have been discussing cooperation with many well-known trading platforms. Please pay attention to our official announcements.
 

Q6.

Sam Taylor‏ @chunkylover199
Q6:What is to stop someone simply removing a tag and leaving the tag on an adjacent item of clothing on the rack in order to steal a piece of clothing?
Answer: We are developing many different ways to integrate the RFID tags into products. We will make it difficult to remove a tag without damaging it, or the host. In the case of clothing, tags do not have to be attached. They can be printed, woven or sewn into the article itself.
 

Q7.

Derek Chow‏ @maseradee Nov 18
Q7: Are there any mechanisms in place to stop someone cutting off the RFID tag from a clothing article and walking out?
Answer: It is difficult to develop a perfect theft deterrent system. The methods currently used by shops can deter a portion of the thefts. Additional developments like sewn-in tags will increase deterrence. Also, our RFID tags are not always able to be cut. Wait and see.
 

Q8.

Rational Riddler
Q8: Will businesses using Waltonchain need to run masternodes or will the unique Waltonchain hardware provide all the mining a business needs? How many readers/scanners will your clients need per store to properly implement the system? #askWTC $WTC
Answer: We aim to provide a fully automated solution with complete software and fully-capable hardware. In doing so, businesses that adopt the Waltonchain system can focus solely on their day-to-day requirements without concerning themselves with those aspects covered by the Waltonchain system. Our entire ecosystem scales up with businesses as child chains are created. We want to make it as easy as possible for our partners’ businesses to fulfill their growth potential.
 

Q9.

wtcrfid‏ @wtcrfid Nov 18
Q9: AskWTC What hardware will I need to run my 5,000 WTC masternode? Will a RasberryPi type system suffice?
Answer: While a RasberryPi could be capable of running a node, It would not be ideal. Please wait for our news on the mining hardware needs.
 

Q10

Sergey‏ @CryptovalleyOF 20 hours ago
Q10: Most of the community is concerned about the relation between the price of a token and the blockchain system, what will a WTC token will be equal to? 1WTC= 1000 Transactions? 1WTC=18,000,000,000,000,000 transactions? I would love to hear your response.
Answer: The transaction exchange rate is established by the marketplace, not by Walton.
 

Q11

Syed M Mujahid‏ @smmujahid
Q11: Walton Chain system essentially include RFID tags, Scanners and blockchain application that will be customizable according to business needs. According to you, tag might cost around 5 cents, what about each scanner and the application. Will it be viable for small businesses
Answer: Our definition of an affordable system is twofold: 1) something that provides long-term additional benefits and 2) something that is worth its cost. The Waltonchain system has been tested in industry and has yielded positive results that our clients did not expect. One example is an increase in distribution efficiency of nearly 100%.
 

Q12

Lemuel Wong‏ @2BitsCrypto
Q12: Will it be possible to use Walton Chain RFID technology in Luxury handbags, such as Hermes for example, to verify it as an authentic item that is recorded in the blockchain? Or can RFID chips be copied/replicated? Last thing are your RFID chips EMP proof? Thank you Walton team!
Answers: Yes, verification of authenticity is a very basic use case. Our RFID chips can not be copied or duplicated. EMP proof RFID chips are not an immediate concern, but are absolutely within the scope of our research and development.
 

Q13.

Sergey‏ @CryptovalleyOF
Q13: One of the main concerns I have about the Waltonchain project is what will happen when the new wallet and blockchain becomes publicly available. I'm sure there will be lots of scams and fake websites claiming to be Waltonchain - what will you do to ensure that the changeover is as safe as possible?
Answer: Security has and always will be among our highest of priorities. This is primary in our system design and deployment but also in ensuring the trust of our community. Official announcements will be made to assist in the transition from ERC20 tokens to official WTC coins.
 

Q14

Errrrr_pesillo‏ @pablo_melo7 Nov 18
Q14: How do you plan to compete with an RFID solution on the IOTA network in future with no mining fees? (Assuming IOTA delivers on their promise) #askWTC #AskWTC
Answer: Our RFID system includes a revolutionary RFID readewriter that not only communicates with tags but also performs the task of mining.
 

Q15

Rami Yousif‏ @ramiyousif91 Nov 18
Q15: Is there any upgrade for your website? #AskWTC
Answer: Yes, there will be an upgrade to our website moving forward. Please watch for our official news release.
 

Q16

matthew collins‏ @mineu999 Nov 18
Q16: Why was there a QR code on the blockchain demo product and will it be there for the final production model? #AskWTC
Answer: Through our network of pioneer users, we are constantly evaluating and refining the production model design. Many aspects may change and many may remain the same. This all depends on feedback from our case-study clients.
 

Q17

Collin‏ @CollinsCustomIP Nov 18 Q17: Please address the wabiico competition & specifically describe how your patents protect your specific (hopefully novel) RFID technology. #askWTC #bitcoin #btc #usecase #blockchain #rfid
Answer: The Waltonchain system starts at an integrated circuit level and will be incorporated directly in the manufacturing of electronic devices and products. At this stage, no human interaction occurs—thus the chain of authenticity begins. We can also integrate our RFID technology at higher levels in the manufacturing/supply chain, such as in packaging, as other competitors might.
Our patents and IC RFID designs incorporate technology not seen in the RFID space before.
 

Q18

Tristan Maunder‏ @WTCTricky Nov 18
Q18: #AskWTC For masternode holders... Are we going to be able to store our WTC on a hardware type wallet for security? "cold staking"
Answer: At this stage we cannot say with 100% certainty that “cold staking” will be implemented. We hope to work with vendors like Ledger and Trezor to implement “cold staking.”
 
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Wealth Formula Episode 175: Cryptocurrency and Asymmetric Risk with Teeka Tiwari

Wealth Formula Episode 175: Cryptocurrency and Asymmetric Risk with Teeka Tiwari

Catch the full episode: https://www.wealthformula.com/podcast/175-cryptocurrency-and-asymmetric-risk-with-teeka-tiwari/
Buck: Welcome back to the show everyone. Today my guest on Wealth Formula Podcast is no stranger to the show. He’s a guy who grew up in foster care and came over the US at the age of 16 with just 150 bucks in his pocket and the clothes on his back. And then by the age of 18 becomes the youngest employee at Lehman Brothers. By 20 he becomes the youngest vice president in Lehman history. Later in his career he goes on to launch successful hedge fund and lived the Wall Street dream. I mean he’s known on Wall Street as the guy who’s made a fortune on what is known as asymmetric risk which is what we’re going to talk about in quite a bit and for the rest of us, for many of us that is, he is best known for being the editor of the Palm Beach confidential newsletter which focuses on digital currencies and I am a subscriber to this by the way. Teeka, welcome back to Wealth Formula Podcast, Teeka Tiwari.
Teeka: Thanks Buck. It’s a pleasure to be here and thank you for having me.
Buck: Yeah so you know you were on not too long ago and some people are listening to the stuff about cannabis and they’re probably thinking to themselves, why is this guy talking about cannabis and digital currencies like what is his specialty? In fact the way I’m thinking about this there’s one main thing that they have in common, they’re both in this area that you call and we call asymmetric risk which is really your thing. Discuss what that means and if you would how have you applied it to your own growth and ultimately to your own wealth.
Teeka: So before I get into asymmetric risk I want to talk about how I discovered asymmetric risk and how I changed the way that I yeah. So when I was in my 20s I developed a lot of wealth by taking massive risk in the stock options and commodities market. And I would bet huge positions. And then that all came to an end in the late 90s when I was on the wrong side of a series of trades that were triggered by the Asian financial crisis which ultimately compelled me to file for bankruptcy. And so I had lost about ten years of wealth creation which was considerable at the time. And what I learned was that I had to change my approach that I couldn’t get it all every single time otherwise I would never get off this boom-and-bust merry-go-round. So what I realized was is that I would I would build the portfolio of somewhat safer more income oriented investments and then I would focus on these ideas that are called asymmetric risk trade. So what’s an asymmetric risk trade? An asymmetric risk trade is where you can take a relatively trivial sum of money and if the idea doesn’t work out it doesn’t impact your net your net worth or your day-to-day lifestyle in any way shape or form. But the asymmetric part of it is is that if it does work out it can absolutely move the needle on your net worth. So an example of that would be something like neo which I recommended at around 12 cents that ended up going up to about a hundred and sixty one dollars so that’s something that you could have put a thousand dollars in and turn it into over a million dollars. That’s a classic asymmetric trade. So what I what I tell my readers is you can’t build your whole portfolio around high-risk asymmetric trades. But if you take let’s say five to ten percent of your liquid net worth and allocate it to these types of situations in a and one of the things I talk about is using uniform position sizing, what you put yourself in the position to do is absolutely grow your network sometimes three four five six X without putting your current lifestyle at risk and it is a sweet spot of wealth creation that I’ve created and popularized now for several years that has not only transformed my financial life but the financial life of many of my readers.
Buck: So as you know Teeka my group the Wealth Formula Group in general I mean there’s a lot of people who are well-to-do they’re you know accredited investors they have you know typically probably more money to invest than others they’re you know and I say this because there is a little bit of a difference there when it comes to somebody who’s barely getting by living check to check, that there is an opportunity in your portfolio to say okay what percentage of this portfolio could I put in that I mean listen if I lose it no big deal I mean I won’t be happy about it but it won’t hurt me that much on the other hand this could explode. Now when you look at it from the perspective of somebody who’s got a fair amount of money and link who’s investing you know several hundred thousand dollars a year or maybe a million dollars or something like that like what do you think is a reasonable amount of a portfolio? Like I know for example that even universities are getting into this and they’re looking at hey maybe you know 1/2 of 1% or something like that I mean I know you’re not in the business of giving financial advice but I’m just curious kind of what your approach would be in terms of allocation.
Teeka: So again generally speaking I would say 5 to 10% of your liquid net worth. So let’s say you’ve got a business that kicks out a million a year that you have to allocate for your investment 50 to $100,000. Definitely nobody likes to lose 50 or a hundred thousand dollars but it’s not going to have a material impact on your lifestyle but if you invest 50 to $100,000 and these asymmetric bets pay off you’re talking about five six seven eight ten twelve million dollars in returns on what is a relatively tiny investment relative to your net worth and that is the beauty of this approach.
Buck: Yeah and and I’m glad you said that because that’s exactly kind of where I’m at sort of lingering between five and ten percent you know and for me you know I I kind of put this in there about you know I kind of put this in that area with startups right I’m not gonna I’m not gonna have a separate category just for digital currencies but anything that is super high risk and high reward and I’m sitting about five or ten percent.
Teeka: That all goes into the same bucket so that’s right that for everybody it’s not just oh this is crypto currencies five to ten percent and startups is five to ten percent. No all go into the same bucket is asymmetric risk.
Buck: Yeah now okay so we kind of got ahead of ourselves and you know you haven’t been on the show talking about crypto currency in a fair amount of time we have a lot more new listeners now so for those who know very little about cryptocurrency but they’re smart they’re sophisticated say they’re a group of you know I know worth investors you’re talking to you they’ve not heard about this how do you explain this in the most efficient way possible and what the significance of it is?
Teeka: Okay so that’s a really big question.
Buck: Yeah no I don’t but I bet you’ve answered it a few times.
Teeka: I’m gonna take a shot at it. So listen as a wealthy investor myself why would I want to bother with cryptocurrency? I’m already rich why do I want to mess around with this? So I’m gonna answer it from that perspective. One it’s always nice to make more money. But two the bigger reason is, is what I want people to understand especially wealthy investors is that it’s very rare to invest at the beginning of a brand-new asset class very very rare right it’s brand-new asset classes though just don’t come about. Digital currency is a brand-new asset class that has legs. So why does it have legs? It has legs because we have never had an asset class that is completely non correlated with the business cycle. It’s never existed before. Every asset class in the world is somehow tied to the business cycle gold, industrial, metals, currencies, stocks, bonds, they’re all tied to the business cycle in one way shape or form things like Bitcoin are not so why why does that make it valuable it makes it valuable because if you are pension fund you’re allocating capital across traditional and non-traditional assets you still have this problem of deep correlation right the business cycle falls apart and you’re taking hits across the board. So there have been studies that have shown just with a small allocation of Bitcoin anywhere from one to five percent across the portfolio even though Bitcoin is wildly volatile because it is not correlated and not tied to the business cycle it actually reduces your overall volatility and your overall risk in your portfolio and that is incredibly valuable. So just from a high level portfolio construction standpoint you will see the world’s hedge funds, pension funds, massive allocators of capital start to move tiny slivers of their money into things like Bitcoin and we’re talking tiny slivers of an 80 trillion dollar pie right it’s in real terms its enormous money in relative terms relative to what they have under management it’s a small amount but when you’re coming off a base where the whole markets only worth 300 billion it doesn’t take much to move the market. So that’s from the high level that’s why you must have some cryptocurrency. And then the next level beyond that is that mankind has never had an asset there’s never been an asset we’re a stronger man couldn’t take it from a weaker man. So whether it was the caveman knocking one guy over the head for his shells or the government coming in in Venezuela and confiscating money or the Argentinian government saying oh we’re having a holiday and taking all your assets from the bank something Brazil has done on multiple occasions. You know the everyday person has not had this ability to hold an asset that has been beyond the confiscationability of a government so something like Bitcoin and digital currency if you are smart and how you buy it if you don’t talk about it you buy quietly and you store it appropriately it is absolutely impossible short of somebody putting a literally putting a gun next to your head for them to take that asset from you and that is remarkable because even if you’ve got a million dollars in gold and you somehow manage to hide it how are you gonna travel the world with a million dollars in gold how are you gonna spend a million dollars in gold you just gonna go to the store and break a piece off with a piece of pliers you just can’t do that the beauty of digital currency is you can walk around with a thumb drive that big with a billion dollars in it and nobody knows and let’s say hey oh I don’t want to keep a billion in Bitcoin I want to do it in a stable coin fine put it in a stable coin. But this idea this portability of money and this complete ownership of an asset that nobody else has any ability to take from you that is valuable that is incredibly valuable.
Buck: So let me ask you a what may seem like a very basic simple question but I think it’s worth asking. So why is it so volatile why is Bitcoin Ethereum for example why these are the major the two biggest by market cap why are they so volatile and you know to the extent that they are uncorrelated do you see that as a function of the size of the market cap or is it something else inherent about digital currencies that makes it this volatile?
Teeka: I think it’s both. One they’re relatively small so if for instance if you look at Microsoft in its early days it was a crazy volatile stock up 40% down 40% down 30% going through bear markets that lasted two years wrecking billions of dollars in value you look at the early days of Microsoft from the 80s into the mid 90s the stock was all over the place and then as the stock got bigger and more mature of course volatility tamp down so you will see that. So what I say with volatility is that welcomed that volatility without it the opportunity to make enormous amounts of money off a small amount of money won’t exist. At some point Bitcoin and the theorem will move to this more blue chip status where maybe you make eight percent a year or six percent a year or something or something like that thank goodness we’re not there yet. The other side of it is is that there you know the markets that are built around trading these are completely unregulated. They’re wild. And there’s all types of crazy manipulation that goes on in the market you have some Bitcoin whale let’s sell a thousand coins and scare the market down and then let’s go buy back 2000 coins it’s the Wild West and somebody a skeptic might say well why do I want to buy now why don’t I buy when the market calms down because when you buy when the market calms down and it’s moved to this very highly regulated very low volatility asset it could have ten x between now and then. So yes there is volatility but I believe if you position size rationally you will be well rewarded for that moment for that volatility and that uncertainty.
Buck: So admittedly I was skeptical of cryptocurrency early on and you know I finally did get in and my timing was actually really good it was a fall early fall 2017 right before a massive bull run. And that of course was followed by what has been called crypto winter. So the question is, is winter over because it sure seems like it’s an awful long thawing period I mean no we seem like to have gotten there but there’s a stall is it over or do you still see some you know rocky shores ahead before there’s a you know big move potentially to all-time highs?
Teeka: Well no crypto winter was over in April. I put out a report talking about that and I pinpointed when that happened it happened when Bitcoin broke its downtrend line. So if you go back and if you look at each of the so-called crypto winters or horrible bear markets that have been in the space Bitcoin will always lead the market first always and then the altcoins play catch up right so it feels worse than it is right now because the alt coins got crushed and many of them have stayed crushed they haven’t come back that’s probably the most popular question I get take okay bitcoins up and it’s you know been up as much as 400 percent this year but why aren’t the old coins moving and my answer is because it’s not yet time. If you look back at the data generally there is at least a six-month time lag between the time Bitcoin breaks its downtrend line and the time that the alt coins move higher. So that that next stage we’ll be entering to in about October and you’ll see a percolation in the alt coins and they’ll start playing catch-up.
Buck: Does that also correlate Teeka with Bitcoin like an all-time high for Bitcoin though? I mean I mean obviously Bitcoin has recovered substantially we’re like you know three four hundred percent up from you know where we were when Bitcoin was at you know three thousand. The question I have is and I have not looked at this history closely even though there’s this recovery, do you have to start approaching all-time highs for those alts to really make their move is that what you’ve seen historically?
Teeka: No you look back when they all started playing catch up in 2016 Bitcoin was starting to move higher and then going into 2017 and then the alts really didn’t start kicking in until around May and that’s when they started moving and eventually the alts outpaced the type of action that was going on with bitcoins. So if we look back at how the altcoins move generally what happens is you have a new series of buyers that come into the market and they’re all centered around Bitcoin. And that’s happening right now. Kelly Lafleur just announced from backed that they’re gonna have physically backed futures have been approved September 23rd I believe is the date that they’re actually gonna start trading. So this brings in a whole new group of traders a whole new group of investors and then so they start getting their feet with Bitcoin and all of a sudden they’re there they might not even know anything about alt coins Buck that that’s the thing right for a lot of people out there to them when they think digital currency the only thing they really think of is Bitcoin.
Buck: So as the alt coins are just anything that’s not Bitcoin for anybody what we keep talking about so anything Ethereum, any other and any other token that’s not Bitcoin generally it’s called an altcoin.
Teeka: Right so as they come in they start getting exposed to these other coins and then they start playing with them and they start investing and then they start trading with them and all of a sudden people look at look at Bitcoin and they look at something else it’s a little bit smaller and they say okay let’s let’s play around here and then you start seeing this broadening of the rally.
Buck: So you think that this time around though specifically I know you you you’re part of your thesis is that this time around may be different because you know bigger money institutional money, but one of the things that we’ve really looked at or you’ve looked at and talked about is you know one of the limitations to big money coming into this stuff is custodianship but the altcoins a lot of the old coins most of them are not gonna have that kind of infrastructure so does that I mean just playing devil’s advocate does that then say well they may just stick to whatever they can buy on Coinbase and Bakkt.
Teeka: Well they have well these coins most of the all coins are ERC 20 coins so in terms of having the infrastructure as long as you can support ERC 20 you can support hundreds of coins that currently trade and so if you look at what Bakkt is doing they’re gonna be supporting Bitcoin first and then they’re going to be supporting Ethereum. So if they support a theory they will naturally support every other ERC20 that’s out there and remember companies like Bakkt they’re in the business of incentivizing trading because they get paid for everything that that goes through their network. So it would be odd to imagine that they’re only going to limit their entire business models with just the trading of Bitcoin it doesn’t make any sense. If you look at what they’ve done in the securities market they haven’t just limited themselves to the trading of the S&P 500 they trade everything so I do think that liquidity will trickle down into the whole market and of course the ERC 20 coins I think will be the first to get the most amount of liquidity because it will be the easiest to support from from a back end technology standpoint. The other thing I want to mention is that another driver of the alt coins would be what I believe will be a proliferation of securitization products. So ETF’s different types of futures I see a world I’ve gotta believe within the next 12 months we will see an ETF that will give us the ability to own 20 30 40 maybe 50 coins in one ETF that trades or one type of security that trades maybe it’s a coin put out by back and says okay you buy this coin and you’ve got the top hundred altcoins exposure to the top hundred alt coins.
Buck: Right and then you know I know a lot of people bring do you talk about the ETF for Bitcoin and this has been sort of bounce back but yeah you know we’re delayed with the SEC several times do you really think of that as a big deal compared to some of the other movements that you you mentioned Bakkt and I think there’s LedgerX things like that where that are allowing for institutional buyers to dissipate is an etf really make much of a difference in your view?
Teeka: I think an ETF is important but I think the SEC is becoming less important in that process and I’ll tell you why. Several very large brokerage firms from the Fidelity to eTrade to TD Ameritrade have announced that they want to offer Bitcoin trading to their users. So I’m talking about a system where you can log in click on a button on your Fidelity account and you can start trading Bitcoin the way you with the sp500. Once that comes out let’s assume it comes out this year which they’ve talked about but they want to do it this year but we’ll see everything seems to run a little slower than people think. But if that that comes out this year and something like 15 to 20 million people can now trade Bitcoin directly from their brokerage accounts to me it makes an ETF a foregone conclusion because the SEC has no reason now to stand in the way of it. And that’s what I’m think that they’re waiting for Buck the SEC is not known for blazing a trail the SEC is not known for moving ahead of the market. So if they can look and say well Fidelity is offering it TD Ameritrade is offering it Schwab is offering it we are asses covered if we approve an ETF I think it’s really a CYA problem with the SEC they don’t want to be the first to make this move and let’s say there’s a problem with it and everybody blames the SEC.
Buck: You know there is this product data that I know of maybe you could talk about this because then you know in the context of an ETF and being able to buy Bitcoin easily you know.
Teeka: I look at the there’s a grayscale Bitcoin trust gbtc which is publicly traded I mean what’s the difference what am I missing there I mean that’s a closed-end fund that has limited liquidity and sometimes trade at a hundred percent premium.
Buck: Yeah okay so lots of things happening in the spaces you mentioned and one of the things that I think that that you said that is very seems very clearly true whether or not what you know whether or not you believe there’s gonna be another bull market is there’s a ton of of Technology improvements and infrastructure and all these things that are going on and price mean a lot more by the way then back in 2017 when prices were off the charts so within that context what are you know say they the one or two things that are you most excited about in the space that gives you the greatest confidence that this is you know this is the the new you know the new dot-com era I guess after the rebels fell as you mentioned before offline and you know the rise of the Amazons and the apples in the crypto world.
Teeka: I’ll tell you why it’s because I’m finally seeing major corporations real corporations doing partnerships with crypto companies not memorandums of understanding MOU’s are meaningless but real partnerships where they’re actually using the technology this is stuff i talked about a year ago. Eighteen and a half months ago I said like real companies are going to start coming into this space they’re gonna start partnering with some of these companies and start using the technology and it’s happening. I’m seeing real businesses like Barclays put up their own money to back certain platforms I was like for instance with trade finance. BMW putting up their own money for back in logistics. So this is a huge shift in in in the type of person that is getting involved in the marketplace. I’m seeing massive credit card processors get involved with tiny startups because they want to piggy back what’s going on and the markets that they’re opening up with with their with their applications. So this to me Buck is is such a difference maker right like if we came into 2019 and none of these deals were happening I would say I would be on here and I would say buck you know what the cake just isn’t baked yet man we just probably gotta wait another year. But when I start seeing very large very smart corporate players making strategic moves to align themselves to certain projects, you can’t ignore that. This is something you can’t ignore. And so this is what has me incredibly excited for this next phase that I see taking place in crypto.
Buck: You know one of the one things that you mentioned earlier and you’ve mentioned in the past which I agree with generally speaking is that you know some level of regulation is a good thing so that it becomes less of a manipulated market. So it becomes something that you know larger big money investors and institutional investors take an interest in because they don’t want to be in something that’s you know that’s that’s not legit. There is a negative a little bit to that and that some opportunities out there are you know start or you’re starting to get restricted in terms of American investors. You know one of the examples I can think of to me is one of what I’m probably one of the biggest things is Binance which is you know the number one trading platform in the world is now effectively you know saying US investors we’ll see you later we’re gonna build something you know sometime and we’re gonna call it you know Binance US and we’re gonna have a lot fewer tokens there what concerns me is an investor in some of the various digital currencies at that point is well how does that affect my liquidity as a US investor and I’m wondering how it is affecting your your portfolio?
Teeka: Okay so there’s a couple of things around that and I can’t advise people to do this I can only report on what some people are doing to get around this geofencing. They’re using Virtual Private Networks. With the use of a virtual private network can get access to any exchange in the world so long as they’re using a VPN that mimics a country that this exchange is allowed to operate in. So as far as I know Binance is not doing anything to prevent anybody from using a VPN so just want to get that out there.
Buck: Jut to interrupt there I mean that that in itself is a little tricky though right I mean isn’t it because then you’ve got to deal with you know US taxes and all that if you’re dealing…
Teeka: Well you always have to deal with US taxes no matter what whether you’re using a VPN or not.
Buck: So it wouldn’t be illegal technically to use Virtual Private Network to use Binance?
Teeka: For me as an individual would I be breaking any laws, I don’t think so but I’m not an attorney. Binance might be breaking some laws or but I don’t think that I would be but again this is something everybody has to make their own decision with. But the other side of this is that by Nance is putting together their own decks which is a decentralized exchange which will allow for peer-to-peer trading and I think you’ll see more of these types of decentralized exchanges which I’m a big fan of I hate the idea of centralized exchanges anyway. So there are some speed problems with decentralized exchanges but they’re getting ironed out and I think within in the future a lot of trading is going to move to peer-to-peer but you’re right it’s certainly a concern for now I would say the biggest solution that I have read about and again I can’t formally tell people to do this is to use a virtual private network.
Buck: The other question though I think as just as a follow-up on that Teeka is that okay so say you use a VPN but not everybody’s gonna do that you know probably most people aren’t gonna do that didn’t then there’s an issues just in terms of liquidity right or don’t you think that’s a problem anymore?
Teeka: I do think it’s a problem but I also rely on the greed factor of the participants in this market that they will figure out a solution because there’s too much money to be made for liquidity that wants to come into the market somebody will find a way to bring that liquidity into that okay so anyway so like you you know I believe that Bitcoin bull run is inevitable what do you think of anything what are you looking for that might trigger and I know you you’re saying already that we’re kind of in a bull market already but what triggers that sort of next level all-time high thing is there anything or do you think this is something that’s gonna be more of a gradual rise or organic than it was in 2017?
Teeka: Well there are several things which I’m gonna be talking about specifically I don’t really want to spill the beans on that here but I have an event coming up which I talk in more detail about a very specific event that I think will act as a massive catalyst. Outside of that I think this whole idea of I call it this kind of new narrative right among institutions where before two years ago three years ago they looked at Bitcoin and they said oh my gosh Bitcoin that’s for Gun Runners and pornographers where we we have no interest in Bitcoin. And now they’re starting to see Bitcoin as a way to eliminate this correlation risk in their portfolio. So I think that narrative will gain more ground in fact I’ve been invited to a conference in San Moritz with 500 top-tier investors and I will be putting forward that research that I’ve drawn together to that audience and really helping propagate that narrative because it is transformational if you manage a large pool of capital what you can do with your overall volatility and how you can adjust it lower through just a tiny amount of Bitcoin is absolutely remarkable. So I think that’s more of a slow burn Buck, but as that gains speed I mean can you just imagine just the amount of buying if pension funds say okay going forward half of 1% of all our assets are going to be in digital currency.
Buck: I mean in part of part of understanding that for people is to understand one of the the great things about Bitcoin in particular is that this is an asset with that is fixed to a certain number of Bitcoin that’ll ever be created so you know we’ve never really had a that kind of monetary thing before I mean to a certain extent gold is that way of course but even you know gold there’s always more gold every year a little bit more gold. This is a truly deflationary asset that really where you know you put more money in the pot you know each one of those bitcoins gonna be worth a lot more and that I can’t think of anything else that’s out there like that.
Teeka: I agree.
Buck: I know you’ve got you know the the Palm Beach Confidential Newsletter Teeka I just have to compliment you because I you know I have been a reader for a couple years it is one of the most comprehensive and thoughtful investment newsletters I’ve ever subscribed to. I mean it is totally the real deal and I appreciate that and one of the things that people can’t join any time and it opens and closes and I know that it is going to be opening up and you’re going to do a webinar coming up on that but can you talk a little bit about the newsletter and the event that’s coming up?
Teeka: Yeah sure so in the newsletter what I do is I will typically find one idea each month and give you a complete breakdown on the idea. And what I try to do I understand not everybody is a cryptocurrency enthusiastic of their currency investor and so what I try to do is write in a way that is easy to digest, easy to understand, not simplistic but very easy for the layperson to get their head around and to really understand the concept that we’re talking about. And I have not opened up Palm Beach confidential for any new members for this whole year, this is the first time that I’ve done that and the reason is, is I only open up Palm Beach confidential to new members when there’s an event that I think can have a massive impact on the broad market. So on September 18th at 8 p.m. I’m going to talk about one of these events and the last time this event took place you could literally take 500 dollars and turn it into five million dollars. There’s only a few times in the history of crypto where you have those types of windows of opportunity and so one of those windows of opportunity is about to open and so at this event I’m gonna explain what it is why it works and why it will absolutely happen this particular event will absolutely happen there’s nothing that can stop the event from taking place. And so I’m gonna share my five top coins, one of which I’ll give away for free during the webinar that I think have that ability to go from five hundred dollars literally into five million. So it’s an exciting time and I’m really kind of chomping at the bit to kind of get in front of everybody and talk about this research that I’ve discovered.
Buck: One last thing I want to point out is I get you know when we talk like this sometimes people get really skeptical they’re like yeah that sounds a little salesy Buck that’s not really kind of the usual thing that you’re talking about and I get it right. The reality is this is a situation this isn’t you know there are real people out there there are kids out there who’ve become multimillionaires by doing exactly this. And so it’s real, that’s why I’m interested.
Teeka: In my own investing I’ve seen a thousand dollar investment go to as much as 1.6 million dollars, ok so it’s real. The other thing I want to convey to everybody I don’t have to write newsletters anymore I don’t have to come on podcast I can sit on a beach all I want ok. So why do I do this I do this because moving the needle on somebody’s net worth maybe not this audience maybe maybe my broader audience it’s incredibly gratifying right helping people change their lives without putting their current lifestyle at risk that’s I mean if that’s my one legacy in this life could you ask for anything more Buck? Really it’s incredibly gratifying to be able to do that and we have this opportunity now and but this opportunity won’t last forever at some point this will be a multi trillion dollar asset class and the ability to make gains like that just won’t exist.
Buck: Teeka, as always it’s been a pleasure talking to you and thanks again for being on Wealth Formula Podcast.
Teeka: Thank you Buck.
Buck: We’ll be right back.
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Consensus Network EP35: Cryptocurrency and Asymmetric Risk with Teeka Tiwari

Catch the full episode: https://www.consensusnetwork.io/podcastepisodes/2019/9/8/ep35-cryptocurrency-and-asymmetric-risk-with-teeka-tiwari
Buck: Welcome back to the show everyone. Today my guest on Wealth Formula Podcast is no stranger to the show. He's a guy who grew up in foster care and came over the US at the age of 16 with just 150 bucks in his pocket and the clothes on his back. And then by the age of 18 becomes the youngest employee at Lehman Brothers. By 20 he becomes the youngest vice president in Lehman history. Later in his career he goes on to launch successful hedge fund and lived the Wall Street dream. I mean he's known on Wall Street as the guy who's made a fortune on what is known as asymmetric risk which is what we’re going to talk about in quite a bit and for the rest of us, for many of us that is, he is best known for being the editor of the Palm Beach confidential newsletter which focuses on digital currencies and I am a subscriber to this by the way. Teeka, welcome back to Wealth Formula Podcast, Teeka Tiwari.
Teeka: Thanks Buck. It’s a pleasure to be here and thank you for having me.
Buck: Yeah so you know you were on not too long ago and some people are listening to the stuff about cannabis and they're probably thinking to themselves, why is this guy talking about cannabis and digital currencies like what is his specialty? In fact the way I'm thinking about this there's one main thing that they have in common, they're both in this area that you call and we call asymmetric risk which is really your thing. Discuss what that means and if you would how have you applied it to your own growth and ultimately to your own wealth.
Teeka: So before I get into asymmetric risk I want to talk about how I discovered asymmetric risk and how I changed the way that I yeah. So when I was in my 20s I developed a lot of wealth by taking massive risk in the stock options and commodities market. And I would bet huge positions. And then that all came to an end in the late 90s when I was on the wrong side of a series of trades that were triggered by the Asian financial crisis which ultimately compelled me to file for bankruptcy. And so I had lost about ten years of wealth creation which was considerable at the time. And what I learned was that I had to change my approach that I couldn't get it all every single time otherwise I would never get off this boom-and-bust merry-go-round. So what I realized was is that I would I would build the portfolio of somewhat safer more income oriented investments and then I would focus on these ideas that are called asymmetric risk trade. So what's an asymmetric risk trade? An asymmetric risk trade is where you can take a relatively trivial sum of money and if the idea doesn't work out it doesn't impact your net your net worth or your day-to-day lifestyle in any way shape or form. But the asymmetric part of it is is that if it does work out it can absolutely move the needle on your net worth. So an example of that would be something like neo which I recommended at around 12 cents that ended up going up to about a hundred and sixty one dollars so that's something that you could have put a thousand dollars in and turn it into over a million dollars. That's a classic asymmetric trade. So what I what I tell my readers is you can't build your whole portfolio around high-risk asymmetric trades. But if you take let's say five to ten percent of your liquid net worth and allocate it to these types of situations in a and one of the things I talk about is using uniform position sizing, what you put yourself in the position to do is absolutely grow your network sometimes three four five six X without putting your current lifestyle at risk and it is a sweet spot of wealth creation that I've created and popularized now for several years that has not only transformed my financial life but the financial life of many of my readers.
Buck: So as you know Teeka my group the Wealth Formula Group in general I mean there's a lot of people who are well-to-do they're you know accredited investors they have you know typically probably more money to invest than others they're you know and I say this because there is a little bit of a difference there when it comes to somebody who's barely getting by living check to check, that there is an opportunity in your portfolio to say okay what percentage of this portfolio could I put in that I mean listen if I lose it no big deal I mean I won't be happy about it but it won't hurt me that much on the other hand this could explode. Now when you look at it from the perspective of somebody who's got a fair amount of money and link who's investing you know several hundred thousand dollars a year or maybe a million dollars or something like that like what do you think is a reasonable amount of a portfolio? Like I know for example that even universities are getting into this and they're looking at hey maybe you know 1/2 of 1% or something like that I mean I know you're not in the business of giving financial advice but I'm just curious kind of what your approach would be in terms of allocation.
Teeka: So again generally speaking I would say 5 to 10% of your liquid net worth. So let's say you've got a business that kicks out a million a year that you have to allocate for your investment 50 to $100,000. Definitely nobody likes to lose 50 or a hundred thousand dollars but it's not going to have a material impact on your lifestyle but if you invest 50 to $100,000 and these asymmetric bets pay off you're talking about five six seven eight ten twelve million dollars in returns on what is a relatively tiny investment relative to your net worth and that is the beauty of this approach.
Buck: Yeah and and I'm glad you said that because that's exactly kind of where I'm at sort of lingering between five and ten percent you know and for me you know I I kind of put this in there about you know I kind of put this in that area with startups right I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have a separate category just for digital currencies but anything that is super high risk and high reward and I'm sitting about five or ten percent.
Teeka: That all goes into the same bucket so that's right that for everybody it's not just oh this is crypto currencies five to ten percent and startups is five to ten percent. No all go into the same bucket is asymmetric risk.
Buck: Yeah now okay so we kind of got ahead of ourselves and you know you haven't been on the show talking about crypto currency in a fair amount of time we have a lot more new listeners now so for those who know very little about cryptocurrency but they're smart they're sophisticated say they're a group of you know I know worth investors you're talking to you they've not heard about this how do you explain this in the most efficient way possible and what the significance of it is?
Teeka: Okay so that's a really big question.
Buck: Yeah no I don't but I bet you've answered it a few times.
Teeka: I'm gonna take a shot at it. So listen as a wealthy investor myself why would I want to bother with cryptocurrency? I'm already rich why do I want to mess around with this? So I'm gonna answer it from that perspective. One it's always nice to make more money. But two the bigger reason is, is what I want people to understand especially wealthy investors is that it's very rare to invest at the beginning of a brand-new asset class very very rare right it's brand-new asset classes though just don't come about. Digital currency is a brand-new asset class that has legs. So why does it have legs? It has legs because we have never had an asset class that is completely non correlated with the business cycle. It's never existed before. Every asset class in the world is somehow tied to the business cycle gold, industrial, metals, currencies, stocks, bonds, they're all tied to the business cycle in one way shape or form things like Bitcoin are not so why why does that make it valuable it makes it valuable because if you are pension fund you're allocating capital across traditional and non-traditional assets you still have this problem of deep correlation right the business cycle falls apart and you're taking hits across the board. So there have been studies that have shown just with a small allocation of Bitcoin anywhere from one to five percent across the portfolio even though Bitcoin is wildly volatile because it is not correlated and not tied to the business cycle it actually reduces your overall volatility and your overall risk in your portfolio and that is incredibly valuable. So just from a high level portfolio construction standpoint you will see the world's hedge funds, pension funds, massive allocators of capital start to move tiny slivers of their money into things like Bitcoin and we're talking tiny slivers of an 80 trillion dollar pie right it's in real terms its enormous money in relative terms relative to what they have under management it's a small amount but when you're coming off a base where the whole markets only worth 300 billion it doesn't take much to move the market. So that's from the high level that's why you must have some cryptocurrency. And then the next level beyond that is that mankind has never had an asset there's never been an asset we're a stronger man couldn't take it from a weaker man. So whether it was the caveman knocking one guy over the head for his shells or the government coming in in Venezuela and confiscating money or the Argentinian government saying oh we're having a holiday and taking all your assets from the bank something Brazil has done on multiple occasions. You know the everyday person has not had this ability to hold an asset that has been beyond the confiscationability of a government so something like Bitcoin and digital currency if you are smart and how you buy it if you don't talk about it you buy quietly and you store it appropriately it is absolutely impossible short of somebody putting a literally putting a gun next to your head for them to take that asset from you and that is remarkable because even if you've got a million dollars in gold and you somehow manage to hide it how are you gonna travel the world with a million dollars in gold how are you gonna spend a million dollars in gold you just gonna go to the store and break a piece off with a piece of pliers you just can't do that the beauty of digital currency is you can walk around with a thumb drive that big with a billion dollars in it and nobody knows and let's say hey oh I don't want to keep a billion in Bitcoin I want to do it in a stable coin fine put it in a stable coin. But this idea this portability of money and this complete ownership of an asset that nobody else has any ability to take from you that is valuable that is incredibly valuable.
Buck: So let me ask you a what may seem like a very basic simple question but I think it's worth asking. So why is it so volatile why is Bitcoin Ethereum for example why these are the major the two biggest by market cap why are they so volatile and you know to the extent that they are uncorrelated do you see that as a function of the size of the market cap or is it something else inherent about digital currencies that makes it this volatile?
Teeka: I think it's both. One they're relatively small so if for instance if you look at Microsoft in its early days it was a crazy volatile stock up 40% down 40% down 30% going through bear markets that lasted two years wrecking billions of dollars in value you look at the early days of Microsoft from the 80s into the mid 90s the stock was all over the place and then as the stock got bigger and more mature of course volatility tamp down so you will see that. So what I say with volatility is that welcomed that volatility without it the opportunity to make enormous amounts of money off a small amount of money won't exist. At some point Bitcoin and the theorem will move to this more blue chip status where maybe you make eight percent a year or six percent a year or something or something like that thank goodness we're not there yet. The other side of it is is that there you know the markets that are built around trading these are completely unregulated. They're wild. And there's all types of crazy manipulation that goes on in the market you have some Bitcoin whale let's sell a thousand coins and scare the market down and then let's go buy back 2000 coins it's the Wild West and somebody a skeptic might say well why do I want to buy now why don't I buy when the market calms down because when you buy when the market calms down and it's moved to this very highly regulated very low volatility asset it could have ten x between now and then. So yes there is volatility but I believe if you position size rationally you will be well rewarded for that moment for that volatility and that uncertainty.
Buck: So admittedly I was skeptical of cryptocurrency early on and you know I finally did get in and my timing was actually really good it was a fall early fall 2017 right before a massive bull run. And that of course was followed by what has been called crypto winter. So the question is, is winter over because it sure seems like it's an awful long thawing period I mean no we seem like to have gotten there but there's a stall is it over or do you still see some you know rocky shores ahead before there's a you know big move potentially to all-time highs?
Teeka: Well no crypto winter was over in April. I put out a report talking about that and I pinpointed when that happened it happened when Bitcoin broke its downtrend line. So if you go back and if you look at each of the so-called crypto winters or horrible bear markets that have been in the space Bitcoin will always lead the market first always and then the altcoins play catch up right so it feels worse than it is right now because the alt coins got crushed and many of them have stayed crushed they haven't come back that’s probably the most popular question I get take okay bitcoins up and it's you know been up as much as 400 percent this year but why aren't the old coins moving and my answer is because it's not yet time. If you look back at the data generally there is at least a six-month time lag between the time Bitcoin breaks its downtrend line and the time that the alt coins move higher. So that that next stage we'll be entering to in about October and you'll see a percolation in the alt coins and they'll start playing catch-up.
Buck: Does that also correlate Teeka with Bitcoin like an all-time high for Bitcoin though? I mean I mean obviously Bitcoin has recovered substantially we're like you know three four hundred percent up from you know where we were when Bitcoin was at you know three thousand. The question I have is and I have not looked at this history closely even though there's this recovery, do you have to start approaching all-time highs for those alts to really make their move is that what you've seen historically?
Teeka: No you look back when they all started playing catch up in 2016 Bitcoin was starting to move higher and then going into 2017 and then the alts really didn't start kicking in until around May and that's when they started moving and eventually the alts outpaced the type of action that was going on with bitcoins. So if we look back at how the altcoins move generally what happens is you have a new series of buyers that come into the market and they're all centered around Bitcoin. And that's happening right now. Kelly Lafleur just announced from backed that they're gonna have physically backed futures have been approved September 23rd I believe is the date that they're actually gonna start trading. So this brings in a whole new group of traders a whole new group of investors and then so they start getting their feet with Bitcoin and all of a sudden they're there they might not even know anything about alt coins Buck that that's the thing right for a lot of people out there to them when they think digital currency the only thing they really think of is Bitcoin.
Buck: So as the alt coins are just anything that's not Bitcoin for anybody what we keep talking about so anything Ethereum, any other and any other token that's not Bitcoin generally it's called an altcoin.
Teeka: Right so as they come in they start getting exposed to these other coins and then they start playing with them and they start investing and then they start trading with them and all of a sudden people look at look at Bitcoin and they look at something else it's a little bit smaller and they say okay let's let's play around here and then you start seeing this broadening of the rally.
Buck: So you think that this time around though specifically I know you you you're part of your thesis is that this time around may be different because you know bigger money institutional money, but one of the things that we've really looked at or you've looked at and talked about is you know one of the limitations to big money coming into this stuff is custodianship but the altcoins a lot of the old coins most of them are not gonna have that kind of infrastructure so does that I mean just playing devil's advocate does that then say well they may just stick to whatever they can buy on Coinbase and Bakkt.
Teeka: Well they have well these coins most of the all coins are ERC 20 coins so in terms of having the infrastructure as long as you can support ERC 20 you can support hundreds of coins that currently trade and so if you look at what Bakkt is doing they're gonna be supporting Bitcoin first and then they're going to be supporting Ethereum. So if they support a theory they will naturally support every other ERC20 that's out there and remember companies like Bakkt they're in the business of incentivizing trading because they get paid for everything that that goes through their network. So it would be odd to imagine that they're only going to limit their entire business models with just the trading of Bitcoin it doesn't make any sense. If you look at what they've done in the securities market they haven't just limited themselves to the trading of the S&P 500 they trade everything so I do think that liquidity will trickle down into the whole market and of course the ERC 20 coins I think will be the first to get the most amount of liquidity because it will be the easiest to support from from a back end technology standpoint. The other thing I want to mention is that another driver of the alt coins would be what I believe will be a proliferation of securitization products. So ETF's different types of futures I see a world I've gotta believe within the next 12 months we will see an ETF that will give us the ability to own 20 30 40 maybe 50 coins in one ETF that trades or one type of security that trades maybe it's a coin put out by back and says okay you buy this coin and you've got the top hundred altcoins exposure to the top hundred alt coins.
Buck: Right and then you know I know a lot of people bring do you talk about the ETF for Bitcoin and this has been sort of bounce back but yeah you know we're delayed with the SEC several times do you really think of that as a big deal compared to some of the other movements that you you mentioned Bakkt and I think there's LedgerX things like that where that are allowing for institutional buyers to dissipate is an etf really make much of a difference in your view?
Teeka: I think an ETF is important but I think the SEC is becoming less important in that process and I'll tell you why. Several very large brokerage firms from the Fidelity to eTrade to TD Ameritrade have announced that they want to offer Bitcoin trading to their users. So I'm talking about a system where you can log in click on a button on your Fidelity account and you can start trading Bitcoin the way you with the sp500. Once that comes out let's assume it comes out this year which they've talked about but they want to do it this year but we'll see everything seems to run a little slower than people think. But if that that comes out this year and something like 15 to 20 million people can now trade Bitcoin directly from their brokerage accounts to me it makes an ETF a foregone conclusion because the SEC has no reason now to stand in the way of it. And that's what I'm think that they're waiting for Buck the SEC is not known for blazing a trail the SEC is not known for moving ahead of the market. So if they can look and say well Fidelity is offering it TD Ameritrade is offering it Schwab is offering it we are asses covered if we approve an ETF I think it's really a CYA problem with the SEC they don't want to be the first to make this move and let's say there's a problem with it and everybody blames the SEC.
Buck: You know there is this product data that I know of maybe you could talk about this because then you know in the context of an ETF and being able to buy Bitcoin easily you know.
Teeka: I look at the there's a grayscale Bitcoin trust gbtc which is publicly traded I mean what's the difference what am I missing there I mean that's a closed-end fund that has limited liquidity and sometimes trade at a hundred percent premium.
Buck: Yeah okay so lots of things happening in the spaces you mentioned and one of the things that I think that that you said that is very seems very clearly true whether or not what you know whether or not you believe there's gonna be another bull market is there's a ton of of Technology improvements and infrastructure and all these things that are going on and price mean a lot more by the way then back in 2017 when prices were off the charts so within that context what are you know say they the one or two things that are you most excited about in the space that gives you the greatest confidence that this is you know this is the the new you know the new dot-com era I guess after the rebels fell as you mentioned before offline and you know the rise of the Amazons and the apples in the crypto world.
Teeka: I'll tell you why it's because I'm finally seeing major corporations real corporations doing partnerships with crypto companies not memorandums of understanding MOU’s are meaningless but real partnerships where they're actually using the technology this is stuff i talked about a year ago. Eighteen and a half months ago I said like real companies are going to start coming into this space they're gonna start partnering with some of these companies and start using the technology and it's happening. I'm seeing real businesses like Barclays put up their own money to back certain platforms I was like for instance with trade finance. BMW putting up their own money for back in logistics. So this is a huge shift in in in the type of person that is getting involved in the marketplace. I'm seeing massive credit card processors get involved with tiny startups because they want to piggy back what's going on and the markets that they're opening up with with their with their applications. So this to me Buck is is such a difference maker right like if we came into 2019 and none of these deals were happening I would say I would be on here and I would say buck you know what the cake just isn't baked yet man we just probably gotta wait another year. But when I start seeing very large very smart corporate players making strategic moves to align themselves to certain projects, you can't ignore that. This is something you can't ignore. And so this is what has me incredibly excited for this next phase that I see taking place in crypto.
Buck: You know one of the one things that you mentioned earlier and you've mentioned in the past which I agree with generally speaking is that you know some level of regulation is a good thing so that it becomes less of a manipulated market. So it becomes something that you know larger big money investors and institutional investors take an interest in because they don't want to be in something that's you know that's that's not legit. There is a negative a little bit to that and that some opportunities out there are you know start or you're starting to get restricted in terms of American investors. You know one of the examples I can think of to me is one of what I'm probably one of the biggest things is Binance which is you know the number one trading platform in the world is now effectively you know saying US investors we'll see you later we're gonna build something you know sometime and we're gonna call it you know Binance US and we're gonna have a lot fewer tokens there what concerns me is an investor in some of the various digital currencies at that point is well how does that affect my liquidity as a US investor and I'm wondering how it is affecting your your portfolio?
Teeka: Okay so there's a couple of things around that and I can't advise people to do this I can only report on what some people are doing to get around this geofencing. They're using Virtual Private Networks. With the use of a virtual private network can get access to any exchange in the world so long as they're using a VPN that mimics a country that this exchange is allowed to operate in. So as far as I know Binance is not doing anything to prevent anybody from using a VPN so just want to get that out there.
Buck: Jut to interrupt there I mean that that in itself is a little tricky though right I mean isn't it because then you've got to deal with you know US taxes and all that if you're dealing…
Teeka: Well you always have to deal with US taxes no matter what whether you're using a VPN or not.
Buck: So it wouldn't be illegal technically to use Virtual Private Network to use Binance?
Teeka: For me as an individual would I be breaking any laws, I don't think so but I'm not an attorney. Binance might be breaking some laws or but I don't think that I would be but again this is something everybody has to make their own decision with. But the other side of this is that by Nance is putting together their own decks which is a decentralized exchange which will allow for peer-to-peer trading and I think you'll see more of these types of decentralized exchanges which I'm a big fan of I hate the idea of centralized exchanges anyway. So there are some speed problems with decentralized exchanges but they're getting ironed out and I think within in the future a lot of trading is going to move to peer-to-peer but you're right it's certainly a concern for now I would say the biggest solution that I have read about and again I can't formally tell people to do this is to use a virtual private network.
Buck: The other question though I think as just as a follow-up on that Teeka is that okay so say you use a VPN but not everybody's gonna do that you know probably most people aren't gonna do that didn't then there's an issues just in terms of liquidity right or don't you think that's a problem anymore?
Teeka: I do think it's a problem but I also rely on the greed factor of the participants in this market that they will figure out a solution because there's too much money to be made for liquidity that wants to come into the market somebody will find a way to bring that liquidity into that okay so anyway so like you you know I believe that Bitcoin bull run is inevitable what do you think of anything what are you looking for that might trigger and I know you you're saying already that we're kind of in a bull market already but what triggers that sort of next level all-time high thing is there anything or do you think this is something that's gonna be more of a gradual rise or organic than it was in 2017?
Teeka: Well there are several things which I'm gonna be talking about specifically I don't really want to spill the beans on that here but I have an event coming up which I talk in more detail about a very specific event that I think will act as a massive catalyst. Outside of that I think this whole idea of I call it this kind of new narrative right among institutions where before two years ago three years ago they looked at Bitcoin and they said oh my gosh Bitcoin that's for Gun Runners and pornographers where we we have no interest in Bitcoin. And now they're starting to see Bitcoin as a way to eliminate this correlation risk in their portfolio. So I think that narrative will gain more ground in fact I've been invited to a conference in San Moritz with 500 top-tier investors and I will be putting forward that research that I've drawn together to that audience and really helping propagate that narrative because it is transformational if you manage a large pool of capital what you can do with your overall volatility and how you can adjust it lower through just a tiny amount of Bitcoin is absolutely remarkable. So I think that's more of a slow burn Buck, but as that gains speed I mean can you just imagine just the amount of buying if pension funds say okay going forward half of 1% of all our assets are going to be in digital currency.
Buck: I mean in part of part of understanding that for people is to understand one of the the great things about Bitcoin in particular is that this is an asset with that is fixed to a certain number of Bitcoin that'll ever be created so you know we've never really had a that kind of monetary thing before I mean to a certain extent gold is that way of course but even you know gold there's always more gold every year a little bit more gold. This is a truly deflationary asset that really where you know you put more money in the pot you know each one of those bitcoins gonna be worth a lot more and that I can't think of anything else that's out there like that.
Teeka: I agree.
Buck: I know you've got you know the the Palm Beach Confidential Newsletter Teeka I just have to compliment you because I you know I have been a reader for a couple years it is one of the most comprehensive and thoughtful investment newsletters I've ever subscribed to. I mean it is totally the real deal and I appreciate that and one of the things that people can't join any time and it opens and closes and I know that it is going to be opening up and you're going to do a webinar coming up on that but can you talk a little bit about the newsletter and the event that's coming up?
Teeka: Yeah sure so in the newsletter what I do is I will typically find one idea each month and give you a complete breakdown on the idea. And what I try to do I understand not everybody is a cryptocurrency enthusiastic of their currency investor and so what I try to do is write in a way that is easy to digest, easy to understand, not simplistic but very easy for the layperson to get their head around and to really understand the concept that we're talking about. And I have not opened up Palm Beach confidential for any new members for this whole year, this is the first time that I've done that and the reason is, is I only open up Palm Beach confidential to new members when there's an event that I think can have a massive impact on the broad market. So on September 18th at 8 p.m. I'm going to talk about one of these events and the last time this event took place you could literally take 500 dollars and turn it into five million dollars. There's only a few times in the history of crypto where you have those types of windows of opportunity and so one of those windows of opportunity is about to open and so at this event I'm gonna explain what it is why it works and why it will absolutely happen this particular event will absolutely happen there's nothing that can stop the event from taking place. And so I'm gonna share my five top coins, one of which I'll give away for free during the webinar that I think have that ability to go from five hundred dollars literally into five million. So it's an exciting time and I'm really kind of chomping at the bit to kind of get in front of everybody and talk about this research that I've discovered.
Buck: One last thing I want to point out is I get you know when we talk like this sometimes people get really skeptical they're like yeah that sounds a little salesy Buck that's not really kind of the usual thing that you're talking about and I get it right. The reality is this is a situation this isn't you know there are real people out there there are kids out there who've become multimillionaires by doing exactly this. And so it's real, that's why I'm interested.
Teeka: In my own investing I've seen a thousand dollar investment go to as much as 1.6 million dollars, ok so it's real. The other thing I want to convey to everybody I don't have to write newsletters anymore I don't have to come on podcast I can sit on a beach all I want ok. So why do I do this I do this because moving the needle on somebody's net worth maybe not this audience maybe my broader audience it's incredibly gratifying right helping people change their lives without putting their current lifestyle at risk that's I mean if that's my one legacy in this life could you ask for anything more Buck? Really it's incredibly gratifying to be able to do that and we have this opportunity now and but this opportunity won't last forever at some point this will be a multi trillion dollar asset class and the ability to make gains like that just won't exist.
Buck: Teeka, as always it's been a pleasure talking to you and thanks again for being on Wealth Formula Podcast.
Teeka: Thank you Buck.
Buck: We'll be right back.
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Subreddit Stats: ethtrader top posts from 2016-12-11 to 2018-08-03 13:38 PDT

Period: 600.44 days
Submissions Comments
Total 990 176734
Rate (per day) 1.65 292.11
Unique Redditors 578 23161
Combined Score 823734 1756585

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 40198 points, 55 submissions: AutoModerator
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 14/Jun/2017 (2930 points, 8421 comments)
    2. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 15/Jun/2017 (1959 points, 8557 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 13/Jun/2017 (1764 points, 5164 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 12/Jun/2017 (1354 points, 12821 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 24/May/2017 (1348 points, 9422 comments)
    6. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 23/May/2017 (1237 points, 6366 comments)
    7. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 30/May/2017 (1144 points, 9015 comments)
    8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 25/May/2017 (1022 points, 8120 comments)
    9. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 10/Jun/2017 (1007 points, 7940 comments)
    10. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 17/Jun/2017 (910 points, 2901 comments)
  2. 16397 points, 1 submission: Pracy_
    1. Everytime Bitcoin drops (16397 points, 357 comments)
  3. 11930 points, 4 submissions: Justjoshmygosh
    1. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time (7352 points, 367 comments)
    2. This is NOT the end (2072 points, 196 comments)
    3. Welcome BACK to ethtrader (1964 points, 110 comments)
    4. Hello again, ethtrader... looks like I have some work to do (542 points, 10 comments)
  4. 11921 points, 2 submissions: _Mido
    1. Here you go (9787 points, 312 comments)
    2. How I felt this week (2134 points, 228 comments)
  5. 10537 points, 9 submissions: econoar
    1. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. (4020 points, 469 comments)
    2. SEC says they don't believe ETH to be a security. (1450 points, 169 comments)
    3. Today, Ethereum has processed 50% more txs than BTC. Ethereum currently has 17 pending TX and BTC has 45k. It takes $0.006 to move Ether in less than 20 seconds. (1406 points, 281 comments)
    4. Visa, IBM, Microsoft and USAA have all posted jobs in the past week looking for Ethereum developers (866 points, 46 comments)
    5. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. (858 points, 86 comments)
    6. Etheremon is completely centralized and the owners can withdrawal all the funds from the contract. (660 points, 383 comments)
    7. On average, it's 59x cheaper to send an Ethereum transaction than a Bitcoin transaction. (488 points, 31 comments)
    8. Ethereum dapps expected to launch very soon. (400 points, 131 comments)
    9. Augur will deploy their contacts on the Ethereum mainnet on July 9! (389 points, 52 comments)
  6. 9349 points, 13 submissions: thepipebomb
    1. CNBC: Why buy Ethereum? (1510 points, 145 comments)
    2. CNBC - "I love Ethereum, I think Ethereum is the one to own here." (1234 points, 158 comments)
    3. CNBC: This is an incredible buying opportunity for Ethereum (988 points, 182 comments)
    4. Please boycott Vinny Lingham's Civic ICO (900 points, 198 comments)
    5. Pantera Capital Quantitative Researcher: By 2020 Ethereum's market cap will be 10x higher than Bitcoin's (749 points, 155 comments)
    6. Amazon Web Services Partners with ConsenSys to Simplify Enterprise Blockchains (690 points, 81 comments)
    7. Sharding may launch with Casper FFG, skipping the 1500 ETH requirement for staking and lowering it to 32 (537 points, 93 comments)
    8. When is $10,000 per ETH realistic? (512 points, 487 comments)
    9. Brian Kelly of CNBC on investing in Ethereum (495 points, 128 comments)
    10. Coinbase plans to add staking (482 points, 114 comments)
  7. 9187 points, 15 submissions: DCinvestor
    1. Personal Finance Rules for Being an Effective Holder (1307 points, 237 comments)
    2. Will Proof of Stake turn ETH into the best Store of Value coin? (1086 points, 144 comments)
    3. Catalysts for ETH Price Increases Over the Next 6 to 12 Months (662 points, 135 comments)
    4. What can the earlier days of Bitcoin teach us about holding Ethereum? (632 points, 151 comments)
    5. How to Survive Crypto Investing (in this market, or in any market) (631 points, 121 comments)
    6. The Most Important Crypto Theses for 2018 (and my current feelings on this market) (602 points, 317 comments)
    7. A Re-evaluation of Ethereum as Long Term Investment (versus new market entrants) (590 points, 136 comments)
    8. Opera introduces first browser with built-in Crypto Wallet for Ethereum (535 points, 64 comments)
    9. Coinbase is trending #1 on the Apple App Store (505 points, 39 comments)
    10. It's time for investors to pursue quality, and to stop chasing shit (503 points, 85 comments)
  8. 8910 points, 5 submissions: leafac1
    1. Would You Like to See Reddit Accept ETH as a Means to Pay for Gold? (3188 points, 193 comments)
    2. Most Popular Story on CNBC Tech: 'Bitcoin’s main rival Ethereum hits a fresh record high' (2467 points, 181 comments)
    3. Tweeted today: Casper (Proof of Stake) testnet is coming. (2106 points, 230 comments)
    4. Ethereum just processed 0.46% of Visa's total tx per day. And it did so without Ethereum Dapps using scaling solutions. (627 points, 78 comments)
    5. Perspective: It seems many are currently unaware that ETH will have a lower inflation rate than BTC (and BTC-Forks) come Proof of Stake & beyond. (522 points, 134 comments)
  9. 8756 points, 12 submissions: twigwam
    1. Apple's Steve Wozniak Dumps Facebook And Thinks Ethereum Could Be The New Apple (1148 points, 80 comments)
    2. “We owe it this new generation to respect their enthusiasm about virtual currencies with a thoughtful and balanced response, not a dismissive one.” -- CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (1119 points, 62 comments)
    3. "Today Ethereum transacted over $100,000,000 PER HOUR on average, with over 53% of transactions going to smart contracts -- really speaks for Ethereum's success as a contract platform" --- Paul Kohlhaas (1115 points, 39 comments)
    4. Reddit Founder: "I’m most bullish about Ethereum simply because people are actually building on it." [MSN] (1072 points, 185 comments)
    5. Google co-founder, Sergey Brin is a last minute addition to the Blockchain Summit panel on emerging technologies. Says he is mining Ethereum with his son. (875 points, 63 comments)
    6. BREAKING: Mt. Gox ‘Bitcoin Whale’ Trustee Won’t Sell Any More BTC -- (Pretty huge news for entire space and not getting deserved media coverage) (752 points, 74 comments)
    7. L.L. Bean says it might offer discounts for clothing that tracks you using the Ethereum blockchain (529 points, 117 comments)
    8. "Vitalik is both a genius and a class act. That’s why I sold a portion of my BTC for Ethereum in addition to lots of Bitcoin Cash." @RogerkVer (490 points, 151 comments)
    9. Coinbase has a $20 billion hedge fund coming onto its platform (437 points, 31 comments)
    10. eBay joins the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance (410 points, 50 comments)
  10. 8539 points, 5 submissions: sopun
    1. Stocks VS Crypto (2269 points, 53 comments)
    2. Bitconnect, Davorcoin and other scams continue being advertised on Coinmarketcap. We should take a stand as a community and push out these people who made a career out of scamming innocents (2227 points, 147 comments)
    3. A shitcoin ICO called Prodeum just exitscammed millions of dollars from investors and left them only this message on their ICO website (1542 points, 222 comments)
    4. Trevon James erased 39 of his YouTube videos promoting BitConnect yesterday. Looks like he starts getting worried about the class action lawsuit against him (1368 points, 223 comments)
    5. Tron's TRX whitepaper raises more red flags than a workers parade in Soviet Union (1133 points, 231 comments)
  11. 8370 points, 14 submissions: Mr_Yukon_C
    1. This is what leadership looks like -- I present to you, CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (829 points, 43 comments)
    2. Millennials are afraid stocks are too risky, so they're investing in crypto (790 points, 227 comments)
    3. OmiseGo Becomes the First Ethereum Unicorn With a Market Cap of $1 Billion (755 points, 155 comments)
    4. AMERICANS: Kill bill 1241 • ethereum (696 points, 66 comments)
    5. Coinbase prepares for a monster increase in trading (689 points, 174 comments)
    6. Microsoft – Decentralized Digital Identities and Blockchain – The Future as We See It. [Building on Ethereum] (652 points, 87 comments)
    7. MakerDAO and OmiseGO: Announcing Dai and OMG Collaborations (597 points, 115 comments)
    8. Coinbase Custody is Officially Open For Business – The Coinbase Blog (589 points, 92 comments)
    9. Scaling Ethereum to hundreds to thousands of transactions per second - TODAY! (514 points, 47 comments)
    10. George Soros Prepares to Trade Cryptocurrencies (504 points, 312 comments)
  12. 8141 points, 12 submissions: BeerBellyFatAss
    1. Bitfinex now trades all pairs against ETH. It’s time for Binance and the rest of the exchanges to do so as well. (2257 points, 219 comments)
    2. Number of Users on Coinbase Surpasses Number of Brokerage Accounts at Charles Schwab (821 points, 63 comments)
    3. Omise signed an agreement on the development of a national ID utilizing the ETDA and block chains of Thailand government agencies! We will continue to work on a number of projects that utilize block chains! (795 points, 112 comments)
    4. Federal Reserve Branch Adds Cryptocurrency Price Indexes [Yes, Really] (583 points, 64 comments)
    5. Catalonia Considering Cryptocurrency Post-Independence, Advised By Ethereum Creator (503 points, 73 comments)
    6. Germany’s Largest Bitcoin Trading Platform Will Soon Add Etheruem (499 points, 46 comments)
    7. Olaf Carlson - On Bloomberg Technology (12/01) - Ethereum to Surpass Bitcoin Market Cap by YE 2018 - Great Interview! (476 points, 141 comments)
    8. Casper is Pretty Close, Sharding Number One Priority Says Vitalik Buterin (474 points, 79 comments)
    9. EOS Now Has Only 100,000 Eth Left After Weeks of Selling (451 points, 140 comments)
    10. "Ethereum, which I think just touched $500 or is getting close, could be triple where it is as well" - Michael Novogratz (442 points, 106 comments)
  13. 7380 points, 5 submissions: EthTrader_Mod
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 (4035 points, 10454 comments)
    2. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 16/Jun/2017 (1359 points, 4524 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 28/May/2017 (685 points, 3331 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 04/Jun/2017 (653 points, 3872 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 29/May/2017 (648 points, 4635 comments)
  14. 7369 points, 9 submissions: Butta_TRiBot
    1. Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. (2174 points, 426 comments)
    2. Vitalik Buterin: In my opinion, the current sharding spec as described is already good enough to get us to thousands of transactions per second (1554 points, 188 comments)
    3. Chinese Internet security giant 360 has found "a series of epic vulnerabilities" in the EOS platform. (703 points, 186 comments)
    4. Inflation rate will go down by ~90% with Casper and Sharding (3 ETH block reward -> 0.22ETH) (701 points, 214 comments)
    5. "Casper Testnet up right now and Sharding will come sooner than you think" - Karl Floersch [41:02] (501 points, 44 comments)
    6. Vitalik on Wechat: We have started developing a test version of Ethereum with sharding using python (445 points, 79 comments)
    7. Elon Musk: "Starting a candy company....Cryptocandy" (437 points, 83 comments)
    8. The reason I invested in Ethereum - motivated developers who even spend their free time explaining the tech (431 points, 79 comments)
    9. Congrats to @naterush1997 and @dannyryan for releasing v0.2 of the cbc Casper prototypes, last night! (423 points, 43 comments)
  15. 7084 points, 5 submissions: ScienceGuy9489
    1. New price target $1,000 (2993 points, 503 comments)
    2. I heard you guys miss me, looks like we're only going up from here (2100 points, 645 comments)
    3. Technical Analysis, Liftoff Due June 16th (758 points, 1019 comments)
    4. I predicted the last two liftoffs, the next one is by May 24th. (729 points, 529 comments)
    5. I predicted the last 3 liftoffs, this is a situation update (504 points, 458 comments)
  16. 6299 points, 10 submissions: jtnichol
    1. Joseph Lubin on Twitter: "#Bitcoin = A single app. #Ethereum = An entire app store. Thanks for having me on @BloombergTV, always a pleasure. https://t.co/LXKX8cF8BR" (1208 points, 89 comments)
    2. Microsoft helps launch world’s first blockchain-based investment product: settled on the public Ethereum chain. (926 points, 82 comments)
    3. This room feels like Q4 2016 all over again (774 points, 262 comments)
    4. Massive heap of rhetoric. But it needs to be said. (592 points, 245 comments)
    5. Friday Donut Day. (535 points, 52 comments)
    6. We're rocketing up in subscribers. Wow! (+1,160 subscribers today; 164% trend score) • TrendingReddits (516 points, 58 comments)
    7. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: Plasma implementations are already happening (491 points, 73 comments)
    8. Unlisted Video Message just for Ethtrader - Thanks for helping someone on Reddit yesterday struggling with life. (476 points, 77 comments)
    9. For all the drama lately I've made you some comfort food. I love you Ethtrader. Whale sized BLT's with a quart of Bloody Mary. (393 points, 87 comments)
    10. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: "Scalability research and development subsidy programs: https://t.co/PwbkdUHbZS" (388 points, 40 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. thepipebomb (9705 points, 581 comments)
  2. csasker (8730 points, 848 comments)
  3. DCinvestor (8271 points, 430 comments)
  4. jtnichol (8161 points, 676 comments)
  5. econoar (8044 points, 600 comments)
  6. Nooku (7550 points, 399 comments)
  7. cutsnek (7201 points, 485 comments)
  8. cyoreligion (6716 points, 373 comments)
  9. antiprosynthesis (6285 points, 730 comments)
  10. oldskool47 (5572 points, 394 comments)
  11. Libertymark (5541 points, 1050 comments)
  12. Mr_Yukon_C (5370 points, 405 comments)
  13. loveYouEth (5105 points, 275 comments)
  14. subdep (5007 points, 314 comments)
  15. IRefuseToGiveAName (5004 points, 361 comments)
  16. laughncow (4728 points, 333 comments)
  17. ethacct (4706 points, 304 comments)
  18. dillllllzzzzz (4594 points, 347 comments)
  19. ruvalm (4548 points, 260 comments)
  20. shouldbdan (4428 points, 270 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. Everytime Bitcoin drops by Pracy_ (16397 points, 357 comments)
  2. Here you go by _Mido (9787 points, 312 comments)
  3. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time by Justjoshmygosh (7352 points, 367 comments)
  4. Dips are just happy little accidents by PaulieVideos (6217 points, 212 comments)
  5. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? by moneyfink (5606 points, 485 comments)
  6. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. by shadow_op (4629 points, 286 comments)
  7. Literally.. by DAXEEY (4111 points, 162 comments)
  8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 by EthTrader_Mod (4035 points, 10454 comments)
  9. Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly by saintmax (4027 points, 190 comments)
  10. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. by econoar (4020 points, 469 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 1715 points: Blactory's comment in Everytime Bitcoin drops
  2. 1348 points: deleted's comment in It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear?
  3. 1300 points: dwy0818's comment in Been in a coma for 23 days, about to check my portfolio
  4. 1170 points: Butterfly_Lags's comment in New price target $1,000
  5. 1106 points: mikewirkijowski's comment in Here you go
  6. 1052 points: phigo50's comment in My wife just talked me out of selling $10,000 eth
  7. 952 points: PcChip's comment in Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave.
  8. 865 points: deleted's comment in Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly
  9. 832 points: BroKing's comment in It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear?
  10. 829 points: khalo_'s comment in Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time
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Subreddit Stats: ethtrader top posts from 2016-12-11 to 2018-10-04 06:19 PDT

Period: 662.14 days
Submissions Comments
Total 991 177374
Rate (per day) 1.50 267.71
Unique Redditors 568 23330
Combined Score 829084 1754738

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 40162 points, 55 submissions: AutoModerator
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 14/Jun/2017 (2927 points, 8386 comments)
    2. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 15/Jun/2017 (1960 points, 8489 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 13/Jun/2017 (1763 points, 5112 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 12/Jun/2017 (1359 points, 12775 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 24/May/2017 (1341 points, 9347 comments)
    6. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 23/May/2017 (1239 points, 6347 comments)
    7. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 30/May/2017 (1142 points, 8943 comments)
    8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 25/May/2017 (1019 points, 8047 comments)
    9. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 10/Jun/2017 (1003 points, 7919 comments)
    10. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 17/Jun/2017 (908 points, 2860 comments)
  2. 16394 points, 1 submission: Pracy_
    1. Everytime Bitcoin drops (16394 points, 351 comments)
  3. 11934 points, 4 submissions: Justjoshmygosh
    1. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time (7348 points, 366 comments)
    2. This is NOT the end (2068 points, 196 comments)
    3. Welcome BACK to ethtrader (1972 points, 110 comments)
    4. Hello again, ethtrader... looks like I have some work to do (546 points, 10 comments)
  4. 11914 points, 2 submissions: _Mido
    1. Here you go (9784 points, 312 comments)
    2. How I felt this week (2130 points, 228 comments)
  5. 10253 points, 15 submissions: twigwam
    1. Apple's Steve Wozniak Dumps Facebook And Thinks Ethereum Could Be The New Apple (1153 points, 80 comments)
    2. “We owe it this new generation to respect their enthusiasm about virtual currencies with a thoughtful and balanced response, not a dismissive one.” -- CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (1119 points, 62 comments)
    3. "Today Ethereum transacted over $100,000,000 PER HOUR on average, with over 53% of transactions going to smart contracts -- really speaks for Ethereum's success as a contract platform" --- Paul Kohlhaas (1112 points, 39 comments)
    4. Reddit Founder: "I’m most bullish about Ethereum simply because people are actually building on it." [MSN] (1081 points, 185 comments)
    5. Google co-founder, Sergey Brin is a last minute addition to the Blockchain Summit panel on emerging technologies. Says he is mining Ethereum with his son. (872 points, 62 comments)
    6. BREAKING: Mt. Gox ‘Bitcoin Whale’ Trustee Won’t Sell Any More BTC -- (Pretty huge news for entire space and not getting deserved media coverage) (758 points, 74 comments)
    7. Brave Browser passes 3 million monthly active users & makes top 10 list in the Google Play Store in 21 countries (680 points, 93 comments)
    8. L.L. Bean says it might offer discounts for clothing that tracks you using the Ethereum blockchain (529 points, 117 comments)
    9. "Vitalik is both a genius and a class act. That’s why I sold a portion of my BTC for Ethereum in addition to lots of Bitcoin Cash." @RogerkVer (493 points, 151 comments)
    10. Coinbase has a $20 billion hedge fund coming onto its platform (438 points, 31 comments)
  6. 10161 points, 8 submissions: econoar
    1. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. (4026 points, 468 comments)
    2. SEC says they don't believe ETH to be a security. (1459 points, 167 comments)
    3. Today, Ethereum has processed 50% more txs than BTC. Ethereum currently has 17 pending TX and BTC has 45k. It takes $0.006 to move Ether in less than 20 seconds. (1406 points, 281 comments)
    4. Visa, IBM, Microsoft and USAA have all posted jobs in the past week looking for Ethereum developers (866 points, 46 comments)
    5. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. (855 points, 85 comments)
    6. Etheremon is completely centralized and the owners can withdrawal all the funds from the contract. (662 points, 380 comments)
    7. On average, it's 59x cheaper to send an Ethereum transaction than a Bitcoin transaction. (485 points, 31 comments)
    8. Ethereum dapps expected to launch very soon. (402 points, 131 comments)
  7. 9930 points, 16 submissions: DCinvestor
    1. Personal Finance Rules for Being an Effective Holder (1307 points, 237 comments)
    2. Will Proof of Stake turn ETH into the best Store of Value coin? (1088 points, 144 comments)
    3. It's time to take back the narrative around Ether and Ethereum. Ethereum is the future of digital, decentralized finance. (771 points, 126 comments)
    4. Catalysts for ETH Price Increases Over the Next 6 to 12 Months (654 points, 135 comments)
    5. What can the earlier days of Bitcoin teach us about holding Ethereum? (625 points, 151 comments)
    6. How to Survive Crypto Investing (in this market, or in any market) (624 points, 121 comments)
    7. The Most Important Crypto Theses for 2018 (and my current feelings on this market) (604 points, 317 comments)
    8. A Re-evaluation of Ethereum as Long Term Investment (versus new market entrants) (590 points, 136 comments)
    9. Opera introduces first browser with built-in Crypto Wallet for Ethereum (537 points, 64 comments)
    10. It's time for investors to pursue quality, and to stop chasing shit (504 points, 85 comments)
  8. 9642 points, 16 submissions: Mr_Yukon_C
    1. Winklevoss Brothers Launch Ethereum Token Backed By U.S. Dollars (856 points, 217 comments)
    2. This is what leadership looks like -- I present to you, CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (832 points, 43 comments)
    3. Millennials are afraid stocks are too risky, so they're investing in crypto (790 points, 225 comments)
    4. OmiseGo Becomes the First Ethereum Unicorn With a Market Cap of $1 Billion (762 points, 155 comments)
    5. AMERICANS: Kill bill 1241 • ethereum (693 points, 66 comments)
    6. Coinbase prepares for a monster increase in trading (684 points, 174 comments)
    7. Microsoft – Decentralized Digital Identities and Blockchain – The Future as We See It. [Building on Ethereum] (645 points, 87 comments)
    8. MakerDAO and OmiseGO: Announcing Dai and OMG Collaborations (604 points, 115 comments)
    9. Coinbase Custody is Officially Open For Business – The Coinbase Blog (589 points, 92 comments)
    10. Scaling Ethereum to hundreds to thousands of transactions per second - TODAY! (514 points, 47 comments)
  9. 9445 points, 14 submissions: BeerBellyFatAss
    1. Bitfinex now trades all pairs against ETH. It’s time for Binance and the rest of the exchanges to do so as well. (2255 points, 219 comments)
    2. Number of Users on Coinbase Surpasses Number of Brokerage Accounts at Charles Schwab (825 points, 63 comments)
    3. Omise signed an agreement on the development of a national ID utilizing the ETDA and block chains of Thailand government agencies! We will continue to work on a number of projects that utilize block chains! (789 points, 108 comments)
    4. Elon Musk on Twitter - At this point, I want Eth, even if it is a scam. (660 points, 179 comments)
    5. Austria will use Ethereum to track up to $1.3B in government bonds (636 points, 51 comments)
    6. Federal Reserve Branch Adds Cryptocurrency Price Indexes [Yes, Really] (587 points, 64 comments)
    7. Germany’s Largest Bitcoin Trading Platform Will Soon Add Etheruem (503 points, 46 comments)
    8. Catalonia Considering Cryptocurrency Post-Independence, Advised By Ethereum Creator (501 points, 73 comments)
    9. Olaf Carlson - On Bloomberg Technology (12/01) - Ethereum to Surpass Bitcoin Market Cap by YE 2018 - Great Interview! (481 points, 141 comments)
    10. Casper is Pretty Close, Sharding Number One Priority Says Vitalik Buterin (473 points, 79 comments)
  10. 9363 points, 13 submissions: thepipebomb
    1. CNBC: Why buy Ethereum? (1515 points, 145 comments)
    2. CNBC - "I love Ethereum, I think Ethereum is the one to own here." (1236 points, 158 comments)
    3. CNBC: This is an incredible buying opportunity for Ethereum (984 points, 182 comments)
    4. Please boycott Vinny Lingham's Civic ICO (900 points, 198 comments)
    5. Pantera Capital Quantitative Researcher: By 2020 Ethereum's market cap will be 10x higher than Bitcoin's (749 points, 155 comments)
    6. Amazon Web Services Partners with ConsenSys to Simplify Enterprise Blockchains (693 points, 81 comments)
    7. Sharding may launch with Casper FFG, skipping the 1500 ETH requirement for staking and lowering it to 32 (534 points, 90 comments)
    8. When is $10,000 per ETH realistic? (511 points, 484 comments)
    9. Brian Kelly of CNBC on investing in Ethereum (490 points, 127 comments)
    10. Coinbase plans to add staking (485 points, 114 comments)
  11. 8908 points, 5 submissions: leafac1
    1. Would You Like to See Reddit Accept ETH as a Means to Pay for Gold? (3191 points, 193 comments)
    2. Most Popular Story on CNBC Tech: 'Bitcoin’s main rival Ethereum hits a fresh record high' (2469 points, 181 comments)
    3. Tweeted today: Casper (Proof of Stake) testnet is coming. (2104 points, 230 comments)
    4. Ethereum just processed 0.46% of Visa's total tx per day. And it did so without Ethereum Dapps using scaling solutions. (621 points, 78 comments)
    5. Perspective: It seems many are currently unaware that ETH will have a lower inflation rate than BTC (and BTC-Forks) come Proof of Stake & beyond. (523 points, 134 comments)
  12. 8538 points, 5 submissions: sopun
    1. Stocks VS Crypto (2269 points, 53 comments)
    2. Bitconnect, Davorcoin and other scams continue being advertised on Coinmarketcap. We should take a stand as a community and push out these people who made a career out of scamming innocents (2225 points, 147 comments)
    3. A shitcoin ICO called Prodeum just exitscammed millions of dollars from investors and left them only this message on their ICO website (1549 points, 222 comments)
    4. Trevon James erased 39 of his YouTube videos promoting BitConnect yesterday. Looks like he starts getting worried about the class action lawsuit against him (1365 points, 222 comments)
    5. Tron's TRX whitepaper raises more red flags than a workers parade in Soviet Union (1130 points, 231 comments)
  13. 8132 points, 10 submissions: jtnichol
    1. Let's find the average age of EthTrader! (2191 points, 145 comments)
    2. Joseph Lubin on Twitter: "#Bitcoin = A single app. #Ethereum = An entire app store. Thanks for having me on @BloombergTV, always a pleasure. https://t.co/LXKX8cF8BR" (1212 points, 89 comments)
    3. Microsoft helps launch world’s first blockchain-based investment product: settled on the public Ethereum chain. (933 points, 82 comments)
    4. This room feels like Q4 2016 all over again (776 points, 262 comments)
    5. Massive heap of rhetoric. But it needs to be said. (591 points, 245 comments)
    6. Friday Donut Day. (539 points, 52 comments)
    7. We're rocketing up in subscribers. Wow! (+1,160 subscribers today; 164% trend score) • TrendingReddits (519 points, 58 comments)
    8. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: Plasma implementations are already happening (484 points, 73 comments)
    9. Unlisted Video Message just for Ethtrader - Thanks for helping someone on Reddit yesterday struggling with life. (474 points, 77 comments)
    10. A Message to EthTrader September 6 2018 - Addressing Suicide comments, Personal Mod approach, sentiment, State of the EthTrader. (413 points, 134 comments)
  14. 7372 points, 5 submissions: EthTrader_Mod
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 (4032 points, 10407 comments)
    2. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 16/Jun/2017 (1354 points, 4474 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 28/May/2017 (682 points, 3318 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 04/Jun/2017 (652 points, 3851 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 29/May/2017 (652 points, 4600 comments)
  15. 7371 points, 9 submissions: Butta_TRiBot
    1. Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. (2170 points, 426 comments)
    2. Vitalik Buterin: In my opinion, the current sharding spec as described is already good enough to get us to thousands of transactions per second (1552 points, 188 comments)
    3. Chinese Internet security giant 360 has found "a series of epic vulnerabilities" in the EOS platform. (707 points, 186 comments)
    4. Inflation rate will go down by ~90% with Casper and Sharding (3 ETH block reward -> 0.22ETH) (700 points, 214 comments)
    5. "Casper Testnet up right now and Sharding will come sooner than you think" - Karl Floersch [41:02] (498 points, 44 comments)
    6. Vitalik on Wechat: We have started developing a test version of Ethereum with sharding using python (450 points, 79 comments)
    7. Elon Musk: "Starting a candy company....Cryptocandy" (440 points, 81 comments)
    8. The reason I invested in Ethereum - motivated developers who even spend their free time explaining the tech (429 points, 78 comments)
    9. Congrats to @naterush1997 and @dannyryan for releasing v0.2 of the cbc Casper prototypes, last night! (425 points, 43 comments)
  16. 7087 points, 5 submissions: ScienceGuy9489
    1. New price target $1,000 (2995 points, 503 comments)
    2. I heard you guys miss me, looks like we're only going up from here (2098 points, 645 comments)
    3. Technical Analysis, Liftoff Due June 16th (761 points, 1018 comments)
    4. I predicted the last two liftoffs, the next one is by May 24th. (725 points, 528 comments)
    5. I predicted the last 3 liftoffs, this is a situation update (508 points, 457 comments)
  17. 6217 points, 1 submission: PaulieVideos
    1. Dips are just happy little accidents (6217 points, 212 comments)
  18. 6097 points, 2 submissions: moneyfink
    1. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? (5597 points, 485 comments)
    2. Reminder: HODL and don't be like this guy (500 points, 83 comments)
  19. 5431 points, 2 submissions: shadow_op
    1. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. (4622 points, 283 comments)
    2. One thing (809 points, 102 comments)
  20. 5354 points, 4 submissions: shouldbdan
    1. Every day I check the price when I wake up (3049 points, 105 comments)
    2. Me reading the daily during downtrends (811 points, 77 comments)
    3. A thank you, to everyone working countless hours to solve the scaling problem (756 points, 112 comments)
    4. HODLing Bitcoin vs HODLing Ether (738 points, 70 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. thepipebomb (9690 points, 581 comments)
  2. csasker (8718 points, 845 comments)
  3. jtnichol (8418 points, 716 comments)
  4. DCinvestor (8221 points, 434 comments)
  5. econoar (8037 points, 601 comments)
  6. Nooku (7237 points, 393 comments)
  7. cutsnek (7201 points, 484 comments)
  8. cyoreligion (6644 points, 364 comments)
  9. antiprosynthesis (6266 points, 729 comments)
  10. Libertymark (5610 points, 1070 comments)
  11. oldskool47 (5598 points, 393 comments)
  12. Mr_Yukon_C (5440 points, 411 comments)
  13. loveYouEth (5047 points, 272 comments)
  14. IRefuseToGiveAName (4993 points, 361 comments)
  15. subdep (4926 points, 311 comments)
  16. laughncow (4723 points, 331 comments)
  17. ethacct (4702 points, 305 comments)
  18. dillllllzzzzz (4553 points, 343 comments)
  19. ruvalm (4549 points, 260 comments)
  20. shouldbdan (4422 points, 270 comments)

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  1. Everytime Bitcoin drops by Pracy_ (16394 points, 351 comments)
  2. Here you go by _Mido (9784 points, 312 comments)
  3. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time by Justjoshmygosh (7348 points, 366 comments)
  4. Dips are just happy little accidents by PaulieVideos (6217 points, 212 comments)
  5. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? by moneyfink (5597 points, 485 comments)
  6. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. by shadow_op (4622 points, 283 comments)
  7. Literally.. by DAXEEY (4099 points, 162 comments)
  8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 by EthTrader_Mod (4032 points, 10407 comments)
  9. Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly by saintmax (4027 points, 190 comments)
  10. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. by econoar (4026 points, 468 comments)

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  6. 1055 points: phigo50's comment in My wife just talked me out of selling $10,000 eth
  7. 959 points: PcChip's comment in Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave.
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